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"Being forgiven could either be concerning a worldly punishment, afterlife punishment, or both. For example, the thief who gets his hand cut off still has to repent to Allah to avoid the punishment in the afterlife."

but there was no forgiveness for the theif when his hand was cut off .

if adam was sent to earth as punishment, then he was punished first, then forgiven later.

he cannot be punished and forgiven @ the same time, right?

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they say there is no forgiveness in punishment. if i punish someone for a crime, have i forgiven them? so is the better interpretation which says that God destined adam to come to earth, not because of punishment.

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