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ansārī's avatar

What does it mean “Allah created our will and intent” because the apparent entails jabr which is negated

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Islamic Discourse's avatar

I felt the ending of the article explained that. Why do you feel that mere creation entails jabr?

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ansārī's avatar

The way I understood what you said is that

Allah سبحانه وتعالى created within us the potency to will,act and realise (like he created us with this potency)

He doesn’t create power in us Everytime we want to act because he already created the power in us at the beginning of our creation

So I will with the power Allah gave me>Allah allows me to actualise my will>I actualise my action

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ansārī's avatar

I probably misunderstood what “created” means then,but what Im confused about is that,does Allah سبحانه وتعالى continuously create the intents we have or did he jst create the initial potency of it

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Mohammed Ateeb Ali's avatar

I was reading Sheikh Omar Al Ashqar's book, Divine Will and Predestination. In it he said it explicitly that our deeds are attributed to us. But in this article you said that our deeds can also be attributed to Allah. Before you answer this, I want you to keep one thing in mind. A lot of speakers speak in an 'unreal' way. For example they say "If you want to *earn* Jannah, pray 5 times a day." But we all (that is, people who speak the language of 'reality') know that Jannah can't be earned. Now having said all of that, can you please explain to me in the language of reality about what you meant by our deeds can be attributed to Allah?

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Islamic Discourse's avatar

Assalamu Alaykum,

They are attributed to us alone in the moral accountability sense. As for actualizing them, then they are attributed to both us and Allah as I explained succinctly in this article.

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Mohammed Ateeb Ali's avatar

Tell me if I got this correct. Deeds are attributed to Allah in the sense that He caused them. But the credit/blame for that deed goes to us. Did I get you correctly?

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Mohammed Ateeb Ali's avatar

Walekum Assalam

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Islamic Discourse's avatar

Correct, but for the causation bit, they are *also* attributed to us because we affirm secondary causation. Asharis would disagree because they are Occassionalists and say that only Allah causes them.

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